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Nobody Can Crack This Number Puzzle...?!
Posté par wustvn
Hello to all of you guys here...
I can't speak French, so I write this in English. I'd like to post a number puzzle, which had been brought to many forums, but yet nobody can work it out properly. I don't know where to put, so I put it here. I'm not a puzzle mania, this just really disturbs my mind. I hope you guys here can help me.
This number puzzle is in .xls file format. It looks like HITORI, but it's not. Since here I can't attach .xls file, I put it (name: sept09A.xls) at:
http://www.artofproblemsolving.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=171338
There are tables contain of 10 rows (1,2,3,...,10) each.
Each table contains of numbers, which here I give an example 1 to 40, that should be found its patterns, so all of the numbers have to be fit in a certain rows in all of the tables.
Tables 1-20 in sheet #2, Tables 21-32 in sheet #3, Tables 33-44 in sheet #4,..., Tables 273-284 in sheet #24.
I name and arrange the tables just like that, though you can do else.
In sheet #1 you can see Tables 1-20 have filled with numbers 1 to 350.
In sheet #25 you can see that total amount of the numbers in each rows are almost its average, so this isn't random and it should have a solution, shouldn't it?
(I hope this can explain the problems clearly).
Thank you to those who want to pay attentions and interested in this puzzle.
P.S:
1. Please reply this, if you need to, in English.
2. Because of their similar shapes, in sheet #26 & #27 I rearranged the tables that I think could be the "keys" of this puzzle, and I put the file (name: #26.xls) in my latest post there.
3. This "big sizes" puzzle is really tough, perhaps geniuses can only crack it...??!!
Sincerely yours,
Steven Wu
Bali
salut wustvn
Le fichier xls est assez volumineux et ne peut être remis sur l'
il doit être téléchargé à partir de l'adresse 
En espérant que ce post ne soit pas de la pub indirecte pour ton site...
I've said this puzzle had been brought to many forums Thus I put the file in that URL because I can attach .xls file with a little bit larger capacity there, meanwhile in many forums I can't do that.
Don't worry this being a spam.
Thank's for your attentions
Citation :
It looks like HITORI, but it's not. Since here I can't attach .xls file, I put it (name: sept09A.xls) at:
http://www.artofproblemsolving.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=171338
It looks like HITORI, but it's not. Since here I can't attach .xls file, I put it (name: sept09A.xls) at:
http://www.artofproblemsolving.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=171338
You can't attach a .xls file, but you can attach an image
Hi Borneo, nice to meet you and others...
This puzzle has to be implemented in Excel, it will be easier if you want to make calculations if need to...
Thank's.
As I know the French (people) mostly like ARTS in general.
I think this puzzle is very artistic, because it's very difficult to arrange thousands of numbers so total amount of numbers in each rows are almost its AVERAGE (as shown in sheet #25). Though I don't know who, I'm sure this is made by genius...!!!
Hi,
Citation :
Each table contains of numbers, which here I give an example 1 to 40, that should be found its patterns, so all of the numbers have to be fit in a certain rows in all of the tables.
Each table contains of numbers, which here I give an example 1 to 40, that should be found its patterns, so all of the numbers have to be fit in a certain rows in all of the tables.
I do not understand. What are precisely the rule? What constraints have to be respected?
Nicolas
Citation :
I'll have a look today
I'll have a look today
Real procrastination, isn't it?
Remarquez que Nicolas, en anglophone confirmé, écrit la ponctuation sans espace
Le transporteur venait de quitter l'appartement avec nos meubles et bagages.
Je me suis donc senti autorisé à regarder le puzzle. 
Je ne suis pas anglophone confirmé, malheureusement. 
Juste un globish++.
Just like HITORI, in EACH TABLE there will be no same numbers vertically, horizontally (& diagonally). But unlike HITORI, after large amount of numbers, finally there are no blank rows/columns , each rows of each table will be filled with numbers as shown in Table 1 to Table 20 in sheet #1. Each table contains numbers only once time. In Table 1 in sheet #1 there are blank cells behind column 46, they have to be filled with numbers higher than 350. The relationships among the tables must be found, so numbers can be placed correctly in where rows of each tables.
Can this make it more clearly?
Thank's.
So, one of the rule seems to be:
In each of the 284 tables, all the numbers from 1 to number-of-cells-in-the-table should appear once.
I still do not understand:
Citation :
n sheet #25 you can see that total amount of the numbers in each rows are almost its average [...] The relationships among the tables must be found, so numbers can be placed correctly in where rows of each tables.
n sheet #25 you can see that total amount of the numbers in each rows are almost its average [...] The relationships among the tables must be found, so numbers can be placed correctly in where rows of each tables.
Is it a rule or an observation? If it is a rule, could you state it more clearly?
Nicolas
Yes, exactly in each of the 284 tables, all of the numbers from 1 to number-of-cells-in-the-table should appear once.
It was my OBSERVATION that in sheet #25 you can see that total amount of the numbers in each rows are almost its average. This facts made me conclude that this puzzle was not random, very artistic, and make me interested. But unfortunately I am not genius enough to crack it...
Thank's.